How long is shanny's leash?

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

Pretty Fair assumption here on this site. I Think if the skins regress this season,we will be more in the Dark about what snyder will do than we ever have before.

http://bloguin.com/thisgivensunday/2...ashington.html

[hail2skins]

I thought scenario #3 was pretty interesting. RG3 = Rex Grossman The 3rd. LOL.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

Pretty Fair assumption here on this site. I Think if the skins regress this season,we will be more in the Dark about what snyder will do than we ever have before.

http://bloguin.com/thisgivensunday/2...ashington.html

Originally Posted by hail2skins

I thought scenario #3 was pretty interesting. RG3 = Rex Grossman The 3rd. LOL.

I found this quote interesting....

Failure to boost Washington's scoring potency to a competitive level will cost somebody named Shanahan, not necessarily Mike, his job.

[skinfanjon]

Originally Posted by NCskinsfanatic

I found this quote interesting....

Please Lord let that be true.

[shally]

4 years... minimum

[CNYSkinFan]

Originally Posted by shally

4 years... minimum

this, unfortunately, is probably true

Year 1 he blamed his losing record on McNabb and the switch to the 3-4 ignoring of course that he traded for McNabb and decided to switch to the 3-4 with 4-3 personel

Year 2 he blamed his losing record on not having a good qb and secondary injuries, ignoring the fact that it was his decision (desire) to roll with rex and beck and refusing to invest fa money or picks into depth at the safety position

Year 3 he will blame having a rookie qb for his son's woeful offense.

Year 4 he will have no one really to blame but that has not really stopped him the previous 3.

[shally]

Originally Posted by CNYSkinFan

this, unfortunately, is probably true

Year 1 he blamed his losing record on McNabb and the switch to the 3-4 ignoring of course that he traded for McNabb and decided to switch to the 3-4 with 4-3 personel

Year 2 he blamed his losing record on not having a good qb and secondary injuries, ignoring the fact that it was his decision (desire) to roll with rex and beck and refusing to invest fa money or picks into depth at the safety position

Year 3 he will blame having a rookie qb for his son's woeful offense.

Year 4 he will have no one really to blame but that has not really stopped him the previous 3.

i said that not because of specific reasons about Shanahan, but because Snyder has painted himself into a corner because of his prior reckless behavior.. unless Shanahan walks away from his contract (and millions of dollars) he will fulfill at least 4 years out of 5.. his health is far better than Parcells was at the equivalent point of their careers and i think he is still burning for redemption because of the mish mash he has made of the Redskins in the first couple of years

we will have a rookie qb this year, i think, so that will get him at least this year and next

[hail2skins]

Originally Posted by CNYSkinFan

this, unfortunately, is probably true

Year 1 he blamed his losing record on McNabb and the switch to the 3-4 ignoring of course that he traded for McNabb and decided to switch to the 3-4 with 4-3 personel

Year 2 he blamed his losing record on not having a good qb and secondary injuries, ignoring the fact that it was his decision (desire) to roll with rex and beck and refusing to invest fa money or picks into depth at the safety position

Year 3 he will blame having a rookie qb for his son's woeful offense.

Year 4 he will have no one really to blame but that has not really stopped him the previous 3.

For year 3 he'll blame it on not having enough picks to fill holes due to the acquistion of RG3. LMAO.

[Keino]

Originally Posted by shally

i said that not because of specific reasons about Shanahan, but because Snyder has painted himself into a corner because of his prior reckless behavior.. unless Shanahan walks away from his contract (and millions of dollars) he will fulfill at least 4 years out of 5.. his health is far better than Parcells was at the equivalent point of their careers and i think he is still burning for redemption because of the mish mash he has made of the Redskins in the first couple of years

we will have a rookie qb this year, i think, so that will get him at least this year and next

I agree with this and actually support it for that reason alone. Like I said in the thread where Dustin first proposes getting rid of Shanny (I agree with his reasoning, but not his ultimate conclusion). Firing Shanny at this point would create a situation that no grown man would want the Redskins job due to perceived impatience and meddling by the owner. We are in the position of having to keep Shanny at least through year 4. I am willing to sit the last 2 or 3 years (if he stays all 5) out and find something else to do with my time on Sundays. So as far as how much rope Shanny has with me....it's all gone. I need progress without the Galloways and other old ass acquisitions that do nothing buy retard the development of the youth on the roster.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

I Think if snyder gives shanny sr the order to fire shanny jr,he'll quit 1st.if that happens,hayslett will coach the team at least a season or remainder of one if both sr and jr leave.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by Keino

I agree with this and actually support it for that reason alone. Like I said in the thread where Dustin first proposes getting rid of Shanny (I agree with his reasoning, but not his ultimate conclusion). Firing Shanny at this point would create a situation that no grown man would want the Redskins job due to perceived impatience and meddling by the owner. We are in the position of having to keep Shanny at least through year 4. I am willing to sit the last 2 or 3 years (if he stays all 5) out and find something else to do with my time on Sundays. So as far as how much rope Shanny has with me....it's all gone. I need progress without the Galloways and other old ass acquisitions that do nothing buy retard the development of the youth on the roster.

I don't know about that. If Snyder cans Shanny after going 6-10 in 2012(or after a horrible start to 2012), ain't no one going to blame Snyder for doing so. Especially if they roll with Grossman or another stiff at QB regardless if they get Rg3.

[CNYSkinFan]

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

I Think if snyder gives shanny sr the order to fire shanny jr,he'll quit 1st.if that happens,hayslett will coach the team at least a season or remainder of one if both sr and jr leave.

i could live with that , haslett will only be around a year and maybe, just maybe we could get a young competent oc or college coach who will become the next Joe gibbs.

[Rickskins76]

Nope, we will end up getting some other over the hill out of the league too long coach like Bill Cowher....

Just lie back and enjoy it...its Snyder's M.O. at this point. The only reason we had Zorn was because they did everything bass ackwards that year and got stuck with him out of their own stupidity...

[colkurtz]

I agree with Shally. Shanahan will get 4 years regardless of record. Snyder's itchy trigger finger over the first dozen years as the owner has put this franchise in this position. Too many coaches for the years he has owned this team. Too much meddling, too many fingers in the pie.
Only by staying out of the limelight and giving Mike and Allen total control does he begin to change the perception as the worst owner in the NFL.

Of course there may be a possibility that Shanahan has lost a step or two. Unfortunately, that's the price we will pay for having an actual GM and a real "NFL caliber coach". We saw that with Gibbs II, where he just didn't have the genius or confidence that he had in Gibbs I. I put at least some of the failure of Gibbs II on the fact that Vinny Cerrato was the de facto GM, with Snyder pulling his strings. In the end, I think that Shanahan will have only himself to blame. It was he who hired his son, not Allen, nor Snyder.

If Shanahan bring in RGIII here, there will be a lot of excitement AND EXPECTATION. Shanahan and Kyle and Allen are going to have to draft and pick up through players to improve and add depth to the OL.

On the other hand, staying with Grossman while waiting for a Tannehill to get NFL ready is going to cause fan temperature's to boil. IMO Shanahan will leave the team rather than be fired. That will maintain some dignity.

[smoak]

Originally Posted by hail2skins

For year 3 he'll blame it on not having enough picks to fill holes due to the acquistion of RG3. LMAO.

Dear god, please let the Mayans be right and end it all.