DFA: Trends Mock

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

I think it could be a wild card like Jon Martin or DeCastro if they can't move up. Blackmon would still be in play, but I don't think its a lock.




Beck certainly doesn't lack for confidence and has a decent arm, I'll give him that. But he's 30 and still doesn't know how to play QB. He doesn't know how to lead a WR or look off a defender.

i think if we dont move up to get RGIII that Shanahan will move heaven and earth to try and trade back the way he did last year.. considering that out of Claiborne, DeCastro, Reiff, Blackmon and Richardson, at least one of them will still be there, so i dont think it is unreasonable to expect him to be able to pull it off..

plan B would be for him to just take Tannehill at 6, if that is who he really wants.. seeing how Locker and Ponder went much earlier last year than anyone expected, it is a real roll of the dice to trade back very far, if he truly wants Tannehill

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

i think if we dont move up to get RGIII that Shanahan will move heaven and earth to try and trade back the way he did last year.. considering that out of Claiborne, DeCastro, Reiff, Blackmon and Richardson, at least one of them will still be there, so i dont think it is unreasonable to expect him to be able to pull it off..

plan B would be for him to just take Tannehill at 6, if that is who he really wants.. seeing how Locker and Ponder went much earlier last year than anyone expected, it is a real roll of the dice to trade back very far, if he truly wants Tannehill

That would be a disaster waiting to happen. Not just because of what I feel Tannehill's limitations are but the pressure on him to perform-and quickly-because the skins passed on any number of quality prospects will make his development stunted.

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

if we end up with blackmon,i'd be ok with that.we just got to find a qb to get the ball to him,and a better OL to give the qb time enough to get the ball to him.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

That would be a disaster waiting to happen. Not just because of what I feel Tannehill's limitations are but the pressure on him to perform-and quickly-because the skins passed on any number of quality prospects will make his development stunted.

we would STILL have to sign someone like Orton to hold the seat warm for Tannehill because he wont be ready to start the season and Rex is, well... Rex is Rex...

[Dolla Bill]

Is it it me, or is the college group of QBs coming out this year not that great? After Luck and Griffin, the drop off is drastic. I think the skins would be better served to choose BPA if they stay at 6, than to reach for players like Tannenhill or even Weeden in the 2nd round.

This situation reminds me of the recent Linsanity articles and sport talk shows gushing over. The Knicks and their fanbase were so basketball starved that when this guy came along, that now every night at home is like a game 7 in the playoffs. There is an electricity in the air that you just about can't replicate anywhere.

The Knicks are us. We have been so starved of a good team, mostly due to the QB position, that we will reach or gamble on any QB. I understand its a passing league now, and that QB is THE most important position, but this franchise cannot gamble anymore on QB. We either go all in for the real deal, or we just keep motoring along and just pray that we win some games with what we have.

Next year's schedule is brutal, and I mean brutal. AFC North? Any QB we draft this year will sit this entire next year. I would not ruin any QB by letting Pittsburgh and Baltimore's defense just end any hope we would have. *Side note, how ironic and cruel would it be that Cleveland gets RG3 and lights up our team for his first win all the while stabbing us in the heart over and over again as he makes plays?

[AustinSkin]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

That would be a disaster waiting to happen. Not just because of what I feel Tannehill's limitations are but the pressure on him to perform-and quickly-because the skins passed on any number of quality prospects will make his development stunted.

I have to agree. Fast-tracking Tannehill to start in the NFL would be like starting Beck.

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

we would STILL have to sign someone like Orton to hold the seat warm for Tannehill because he wont be ready to start the season and Rex is, well... Rex is Rex...

Honestly, I'd rather go with Peyton and/or make a flyer offer on a guy like Hoyer, Mallet or Kaepernick over Tannehill.

Originally Posted by Dolla Bill

Is it it me, or is the college group of QBs coming out this year not that great? After Luck and Griffin, the drop off is drastic. I think the skins would be better served to choose BPA if they stay at 6, than to reach for players like Tannenhill or even Weeden in the 2nd round.

This situation reminds me of the recent Linsanity articles and sport talk shows gushing over. The Knicks and their fanbase were so basketball starved that when this guy came along, that now every night at home is like a game 7 in the playoffs. There is an electricity in the air that you just about can't replicate anywhere.

The Knicks are us. We have been so starved of a good team, mostly due to the QB position, that we will reach or gamble on any QB. I understand its a passing league now, and that QB is THE most important position, but this franchise cannot gamble anymore on QB. We either go all in for the real deal, or we just keep motoring along and just pray that we win some games with what we have.

Next year's schedule is brutal, and I mean brutal. AFC North? Any QB we draft this year will sit this entire next year. I would not ruin any QB by letting Pittsburgh and Baltimore's defense just end any hope we would have. *Side note, how ironic and cruel would it be that Cleveland gets RG3 and lights up our team for his first win all the while stabbing us in the heart over and over again as he makes plays?

+1. Excellent post.

Originally Posted by AustinSkin

I have to agree. Fast-tracking Tannehill to start in the NFL would be like starting Beck.

We're charter members of the "Tannehill Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks" facebook group lmao.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

Honestly, I'd rather go with Peyton and/or make a flyer offer on a guy like Hoyer, Mallet or Kaepernick over Tannehill.



+

We're charter members of the "Tannehill Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks" facebook group lmao.

we passed on Mallett last year.. Not interested this year.

Hoyer ? nothing he has done makes me think he is worth trading for.
he is Kolb "lite"

Kaepernick ? what makes you think he is even available ?

Peyton ? I think the Redskins will give SERIOUS thought to signing him-- even if he is only 75 % of what he once was

i think there is a possibility we draft Weedon and start him from day 1, but it would make no sense to take him if we sign any veteran, because he will have a more limited "shelf life"

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by shally

we passed on Mallett last year.. Not interested this year.

Hoyer ? nothing he has done makes me think he is worth trading for.
he is Kolb "lite"

Kaepernick ? what makes you think he is even available ?

Peyton ? I think the Redskins will give SERIOUS thought to signing him-- even if he is only 75 % of what he once was

i think there is a possibility we draft Weedon and start him from day 1, but it would make no sense to take him if we sign any veteran, because he will have a more limited "shelf life"

This is a strong possibility .... a 4 year QB (solution) for a 3 year coach (if successful)

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

we passed on Mallett last year.. Not interested this year.

How'd that work out lol.

Originally Posted by shally

Hoyer ? nothing he has done makes me think he is worth trading for.
he is Kolb "lite"

He's a hot commodity around the league.

Originally Posted by shally

Kaepernick ? what makes you think he is even available ?

If they give Alex Smith a long term deal he will be.

Originally Posted by shally

Peyton ? I think the Redskins will give SERIOUS thought to signing him-- even if he is only 75 % of what he once was

I wouldn't be surprised if that happens quickly.

Originally Posted by shally

i think there is a possibility we draft Weedon and start him from day 1, but it would make no sense to take him if we sign any veteran, because he will have a more limited "shelf life"

Agreed.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

How'd that work out lol.



He's a hot commodity around the league.



If they give Alex Smith a long term deal he will be.



I wouldn't be surprised if that happens quickly.



Agreed.

Kaepernick is going nowhere. No matter what kind of contract they give Smith.. Think Kolb, whose contract isnt that big, despite the numbers..Smith is 1 hit away from another shoulder surgery

Nowhere is Hoyer realistically seen anything more than a career backup.. Buyer beware.. he is no better than Guitierrez, another former Pat backup.

the Pats will keep Mallet because Brady is starting to get dinged and they need an eventual replacement.. Mallet has the biggest upside.. he aint available

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

Kaepernick is going nowhere. No matter what kind of contract they give Smith.. Think Kolb, whose contract isnt that big, despite the numbers..Smith is 1 hit away from another shoulder surgery

If they give Smith a 5 year deal, they almost have to deal Kaepernick..or at least entertain offers.

Originally Posted by shally

Nowhere is Hoyer realistically seen anything more than a career backup.. Buyer beware.. he is no better than Guitierrez, another former Pat backup.

I guess we'll see. I keep hearing that he'll be a hot commodity on the RFA market

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

If they give Smith a 5 year deal, they almost have to deal Kaepernick..or at least entertain offers.



I guess we'll see. I keep hearing that he'll be a hot commodity on the RFA market

who do they have behind Smith ? and Kapernicks deal is a for a second round player.. very team friendly.. again, he is going nowhere

the issue with Hoyer is that he is RESTRICTED-- as opposed to Flynn.. teams wont give up a #2 for him based upon what he has done.. i think it is folly to pay that kind of price for a player like him

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

who do they have behind Smith ? and Kapernicks deal is a for a second round player.. very team friendly.. again, he is going nowhere

Easy enough to sign a vet to backup Smith

Originally Posted by shally

the issue with Hoyer is that he is RESTRICTED-- as opposed to Flynn.. teams wont give up a #2 for him based upon what he has done.. i think it is folly to pay that kind of price for a player like him

I didn't say that teams would be interested in Hoyer over Flynn. I said that he will be in play this offseason. The Pats probably will settle on a 3rd for him. I'd consider it. Certainly over Weeden or Tannehill

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

Easy enough to sign a vet to backup Smith



I didn't say that teams would be interested in Hoyer over Flynn. I said that he will be in play this offseason. The Pats probably will settle on a 3rd for him. I'd consider it. Certainly over Weeden or Tannehill

i could see Hoyer for a 3rd or 4th, and then take Tannehill to groom behind him