Washington Redskins prepared to part with two first-round picks and more for St. Loui

[FunBunch5]

Originally Posted by lorimike

Randal had a very good career with lots of victories. Would you rather keep watching the drek we've been putting up with for the last 15 years ? Furthermore I doubt RG3 gets caught from behind by Anthony Spencer.

So are you on the RG3 bandwagon even if it means giving up a lot of picks? I am like you and like our draft picks, but I also think a player like RG doesn't come around that often.

edit* Never mind, If I would have weighted 1 minute more to ask my question I would have had my answer in your latest post.

[culpeper]

Originally Posted by jaylen

I got a feeling with Holmgrens ties to the Packers he's gonna make a play for Flynn. I think the Dolphins may end up being our main competitors.

The package Skaggrules posted sounds about what might happen. The bidding for RGIII could get crazy if you believe the hype being spun the Rams could be just juicing the market.

We are the splash team this sorta thing is up our alley.

I didnt even consider this until I heard on NFL radio yesterday...Holmgren is running the GB offense. I thought Flynn was a lock for Miami with his coaches going there, but now I see Cleveland as an absolute possibility (especially with Holmgrens record of choosing QB's).

This would be a fantastic situation for us, and although I still think Miami will get Flynn (they're more desperate for a QB) the race for Flynn is on...

[lorimike]

Originally Posted by FunBunch5

So are you on the RG3 bandwagon even if it means giving up a lot of picks? I am like you and like our draft picks, but I also think a player like RG doesn't come around that often.

edit* Never mind, If I would have weighted 1 minute more to ask my question I would have had my answer in your latest post.

Yes , from what I have been hearing and reading the potential deal will not be as bad as we thought. We might be able to keep this years 2nd. Which means we could trade down and get some of the picks back. Don't get me wrong I totally believe in keeping our draft picks but this is a once a decade opportunity. RG3 will give NFC East defenses fits.

[culpeper]

Originally Posted by lorimike

Yes , from what I have been hearing and reading the potential deal will not be as bad as we thought. We might be able to keep this years 2nd. Which means we could trade down and get some of the picks back. Don't get me wrong I totally believe in keeping our draft picks but this is a once a decade opportunity. RG3 will give NFC East defenses fits.

I will say this for you, this is unequivocally the FIRST time Ive ever seen you advocate for the Redskins using a draft pick for anything but trading back or picking a certain player.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by gbalzac

you ever seen him play? seems like ignorant commentary by an individual that hasn't watched him much. Yes he happens to be fast but no he's not a runner....he lingers in the pocket...often too long ala Big Ben to extend plays and if absolutely necessary then yes he'll eventually run... I'd be more worried about him being abused in the pocket trying to extend plays in the nfl

Im not going to get into an insult exchange over an opinion about how a future draft pick will perform, so if you want to start this debate with insults it will be a short lived one. I will say that yes, I watched the kid play. I watched him last year and the year before when he was fairly pedestrian. RG III is a SMALL quarterback, and with that speed, his first instinct will be to tuck and run in the NFL. If you have God given speed like that, you are going to use it, and in the NFL those chicken like legs are gonna get injured. We're not talking Cam Newton, we're talking a rather small QB by NFL standards with freakish quickness who is going to get hit, and he's going to go down. RG III will be out injured by week 9 if he starts every week in the NFL, that's just my opinion. I hope Im wrong, and I hope the kid is the next great QB, but I don't think the Skins should mortgage the future for this kid with so many needs on this team.

[paulskinsfan]

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Originally Posted by redskinz#1fan

WOW!!! Do you have the wining lottery #'s too, since you can now predict the future? Clearly you haven't watched him play at all, because he looks to pass 1st, run when neccessary.

CRAZY!!!

I should say the same for you! Clearly, if you support giving up all these draft picks then, in your opinion, RG3 is a sure thing franchise quarterback. The draft is a total crap shoot. I would rather spend some money on a FA QB, and use the draft picks we have to continue and build this team. Giving up the future for a QB with 1 great year who will pull it down and run first, thats CRAZY !!!

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by FunBunch5

D. McNabb was a runner and had 10 solid years. Steve Young was a runner and had a long career. Cunningham's problem wasn't that he was a runner but it was his long wind up. RGIII seems to have a nice combination of speed, short enough wind up and accuracy. Which is important because once his athleticism goes he can be an affective passer like Young was.

Was McNabb ever worth 2 1st round picks, and 2 mid round picks? No. McNabb was solid for several years, but never great and if you are paying that price you are paying for greatness. Steve Young rode the bench for several years honing his skills, RG3 cannot do that, he will have to perform right away.

[smave]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

Im not going to get into an insult exchange over an opinion about how a future draft pick will perform, so if you want to start this debate with insults it will be a short lived one. I will say that yes, I watched the kid play. I watched him last year and the year before when he was fairly pedestrian. RG III is a SMALL quarterback, and with that speed, his first instinct will be to tuck and run in the NFL. If you have God given speed like that, you are going to use it, and in the NFL those chicken like legs are gonna get injured. We're not talking Cam Newton, we're talking a rather small QB by NFL standards with freakish quickness who is going to get hit, and he's going to go down. RG III will be out injured by week 9 if he starts every week in the NFL, that's just my opinion. I hope Im wrong, and I hope the kid is the next great QB, but I don't think the Skins should mortgage the future for this kid with so many needs on this team.

What? Small? He has the exact same stats as Aaron Rodgers and I don't see Aaron Rodgers out there getting killed at the QB position, lol.

He's the same size or bigger than majority of the QB's in the NFL...

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by JsMaViSd

What? Small? He has the exact same stats as Aaron Rodgers and I don't see Aaron Rodgers out there getting killed at the QB position, lol.

He's the same size or bigger than majority of the QB's in the NFL...

No he's not. RG# is 6-2 and has a small frame. He scrambles around like a chicken with its head cut off on every play. He is small and he plays recklessly. But hey, maybe in 8 months you can say "I told you so!" Sure hope you can.

[smave]

Originally Posted by paulskinsfan

No he's not. RG# is 6-2 and has a small frame. He scrambles around like a chicken with its head cut off on every play. He is small and he plays recklessly. But hey, maybe in 8 months you can say "I told you so!" Sure hope you can.

He weighed in at 223lbs, lol.

Guess what Rodgers stats were when he came out?

6-2 223lbs.

Weird...

[paulskinsfan]

"The only knock on the 2011 Consensus All-American is his potential vulnerability to injury. At 6 feet 2 inches tall and 220 pounds, he is considered slightly undersized for a mobile quarterback at the professional level. "

Source BleacherReport.com.

You can look at him and tell he's got a small frame for the NFL game.....ISN'T THAT WEIRD THAT YOUR OWN EYES CAN SEE THAT! You cannot go by paper stats for everything, one guy who is 6-2 and 220 often looks a heck of alot bigger than another guy who is 6-2 and 220, it just depends on how they are built. In the end it doesn't matter if you and I agree, its all speculation and just our opinions as to a draftees potential. We will know who is right in a year or 2, maybe more.

[bigcmr]

For some reason I am not buying this trade. Its way to early to say who is going to bid for no. 2 or not.

[lorimike]

Originally Posted by culpeper

I will say this for you, this is unequivocally the FIRST time Ive ever seen you advocate for the Redskins using a draft pick for anything but trading back or picking a certain player.

Yes, I know. There are exceptions to every rule. And with 30 plus million under the cap we can also put some pieces around him. Other than just having the 2nd overall pick outright we are sitting in a good position.

[Red Bear]

The Cleveland Browns have been the favorite to land the pick, given they arguably have the most ammunition. Per the league source, Cleveland has offered the No. 4 overall pick, two second round picks (one in 2012 and one in 2013) and a fifth round pick, but not the No. 22 overall pick. However, if the No. 22 overall pick is a must for the Rams, while reluctant, the Browns would likely be willing to include it.

Another team with an offer on the table is the Washington Redskins. According to the source, Mike Shanahan's team has offered the No. 6 and No. 39 overall picks, along with a third round pick and a second round pick in the 2013 draft.

http://www.nationalfootballauthority...rams-have.html

im not sure how reputable that site is, but i still found it interesting.

[shally]

Originally Posted by Red Bear

http://www.nationalfootballauthority...rams-have.html

im not sure how reputable that site is, but i still found it interesting.

i just cant see the Browns not being interested in Flynn.. it totally fits the Holmgren model