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culpeper · #46 04-11-2012, 04:36 PM

Came across this in an email with a friend. See if you can name that safety that gets run over at the end of this run:http://youtu.be/tHr2DbCBHws

Proves nothing I know. Just being an a**

oldskinfan · #47 04-11-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by culpeper

Came across this in an email with a friend. See if you can name that safety that gets run over at the end of this run:http://youtu.be/tHr2DbCBHws

Proves nothing I know. Just being an a**

That would be #19 Brandon Meriweather

redskin_rich · #48 04-11-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by culpeper

Came across this in an email with a friend. See if you can name that safety that gets run over at the end of this run:http://youtu.be/tHr2DbCBHws

Proves nothing I know. Just being an a**

I'm sure you can find highlights (lowlights) of just about any secondary player getting trucked. Though, that clip supports the premise that BM was ill suited for the Tampa-2 defense. You are correct in that the C-2/T-2 defense is about as simplistic as it gets. It does, however, require very athletic players, sure tacklers and hard hitters from the Safety positions.

In the Goodell NFL of today, I think that style of defense will be less used, as will a lot of the zone coverages. This is a QB driven league now and more attention will be on blitzing and man coverage.

Keino · #49 04-12-2012, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by culpeper

Tampa 2 is not hard for anyone with a brain to learn, Im sorry. Zone is an easy concept, you just need to be able to adjust to what the offense is doing. And if your argument is its all instinct and no brains needed...him failing in Chicago disproves your theory. If hes a "J.Trotter" type and only excels when hes asked to attack the LOS, then I hope we let him do that so he's effective. I have my doubts if there are other responsibilities.

Reading an offense, getting yourself AND your teammates in the proper position (likely the MLB and S jobs) requires SOME ability to process information and communicate it to your teammates. I never said that player needs to be a A+ student. In fact, most of those guys have problems in the NFL too (not sure why though).

Where do you stand on Meriweather then? All Ive seen is you're just glad its not Doughty (which I can get behind for sure). I dont agree that hes a better option than Gomes.

If you haven't played Tampa 2 your whole career, it takes a while to adjust. That's all I am saying. Muscle memory has a lot to do with it. As for where I stand on Merrieweather? Anything that keeps Doughty on the bench is fine with me and we couldn't re-up with Landry (in my opinion). I am guessing Gomes will be given a chance to compete for the spot. I like the Madieu Williams signing a lot.

culpeper · #50 04-12-2012, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by oldskinfan

That would be #19 Brandon Meriweather

DING DING DING!!!

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Originally Posted by redskin_rich

I'm sure you can find highlights (lowlights) of just about any secondary player getting trucked. Though, that clip supports the premise that BM was ill suited for the Tampa-2 defense. You are correct in that the C-2/T-2 defense is about as simplistic as it gets. It does, however, require very athletic players, sure tacklers and hard hitters from the Safety positions.

I know, like I said Im just being coy (or an a**). Just funny that my buddy sent me that clip and I never knew that was Meriweather.

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Originally Posted by redskin_rich

In the Goodell NFL of today, I think that style of defense will be less used, as will a lot of the zone coverages. This is a QB driven league now and more attention will be on blitzing and man coverage.

IDK, if you have the MLB that can get depth, that Tampa 2 is still vicious. You could be right, IDK

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Originally Posted by Keino

If you haven't played Tampa 2 your whole career, it takes a while to adjust. That's all I am saying. Muscle memory has a lot to do with it. As for where I stand on Merrieweather? Anything that keeps Doughty on the bench is fine with me and we couldn't re-up with Landry (in my opinion). I am guessing Gomes will be given a chance to compete for the spot. I like the Madieu Williams signing a lot.

Fair. And I completely agree with keeping Doughty as far from the field as possible. I just hope Gomes is good enough to keep Meriweather as depth. Over Doughty, thats an upgrade no doubt. I just dont agree with the original point in the article. Typical fan who has no idea who Meriweather is and backing the signing just because Landry was damaged goods. I think it was a lateral move AT BEST and I would have preferred we had signed someone else.

FunBunch5 · #51 04-12-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by culpeper

Typical fan who has no idea who Meriweather is and backing the signing just because Landry was damaged goods. I think it was a lateral move AT BEST and I would have preferred we had signed someone else.

I am coming late into this conversation so you may have already addressed this, but Landry was decent if healthy, so if Meriweather is a lateral move at best and can stay healthy wouldn't that mean a hole has been filled? Basically we are no worse off then last year and the S play was adequate. So yes maybe it is not ideal because you want to improve the position, but that is not always a reality. At least now we can say Landry's replacement is taken care of and we are no worse off and now we can focus efforts into other holes.

Keino · #52 04-12-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FunBunch5

I am coming late into this conversation so you may have already addressed this, but Landry was decent if healthy, so if Meriweather is a lateral move at best and can stay healthy wouldn't that mean a hole has been filled? Basically we are no worse off then last year and the S play was adequate. So yes maybe it is not ideal because you want to improve the position, but that is not always a reality. At least now we can say Landry's replacement is taken care of and we are no worse off and now we can focus efforts into other holes.

Now wait a minute. What team were you watching in which the Safety play was adequate? I think it was borderline horrible.

FunBunch5 · #53 04-12-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Keino

Now wait a minute. What team were you watching in which the Safety play was adequate? I think it was borderline horrible.

Yes with Doughty it was horrible, but I think we all agree Meriweather is an upgrade to Doughty. Where I was trying to go is if Landry is healthy we get adequate play from the S position. What I got from Culpepper's post is that Meriweather is a lateral move from Landry at best. If Meriweather is a lateral from Landry and can stay healthy, then we should be ok.

bergiemoore · #54 04-12-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by FunBunch5

Yes with Doughty it was horrible, but I think we all agree Meriweather is an upgrade to Doughty. Where I was trying to go is if Landry is healthy we get adequate play from the S position. What I got from Culpepper's post is that Meriweather is a lateral move from Landry at best. If Meriweather is a lateral from Landry and can stay healthy, then we should be ok.

I'm not certain that I would agree that the safety play was adequate even when Landry was in the lineup, last season. It was certainly an improvement over "The Witness", but that's akin to a "tallest pigmy" contest.

AustinSkin · #55 04-12-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by culpeper

Came across this in an email with a friend. See if you can name that safety that gets run over at the end of this run:http://youtu.be/tHr2DbCBHws

Proves nothing I know. Just being an a**

This is completely blowing my theory that you are bada** if you have dreadlocks or if you're Samoan.

smave · #56 04-12-2012, 10:25 AM

I disagree. Merryweather has been to the pro bowl, twice. Landry dreams to have been there.

At least Merryweather has potential and can stay healthy.

AustinSkin · #57 04-12-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JsMaViSd

I disagree. Merryweather has been to the pro bowl, twice. Landry dreams to have been there.

At least Merryweather has potential and can stay healthy.

I'm hoping you're right. Then my dreadlocks & Samoans theory still holds up.

smave · #58 04-12-2012, 03:30 PM

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I'm hoping you're right. Then my dreadlocks & Samoans theory still holds up.

That's weird because that is my theory as well.

Always gotta have a guy with dreads on your defense in order to have success.

culpeper · #59 04-13-2012, 06:01 PM

LOL, y'all are ridiculous with the dreadlocks thing *smh

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Originally Posted by FunBunch5

Yes with Doughty it was horrible, but I think we all agree Meriweather is an upgrade to Doughty. Where I was trying to go is if Landry is healthy we get adequate play from the S position. What I got from Culpepper's post is that Meriweather is a lateral move from Landry at best. If Meriweather is a lateral from Landry and can stay healthy, then we should be ok.

That statement was not comparing a healthy Landry. It was an injured Landry and the supporting cast as a whole (Gomes too even though he showed the most promise IMO).

Meriweather is a turd. Im glad we signed Jackson, maybe Meriweather winds up TC fodder...

AustinSkin · #60 04-13-2012, 07:02 PM

Doughty needs to grow some dreadlocks fast, or legally change his name to Doughtopalumalo.