Gafney on the way out? - Page 4

cal_junior · #46 04-19-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_stouty

For some strange reason, I could see Moss/RG3 combo being successful like the Cam/SteveSmith one was last year. A vet who is a good outlet for a rookie. I think Steve Smith is much better than Moss, but I could still see Moss step it up for Robert. Just IMO.

What may help that come to fruition is that Moss will probably be used differently this year. 89 may end up with more favorable matchups in terms of coverage.

dj_stouty · #47 04-19-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cal_junior

What may help that come to fruition is that Moss will probably be used differently this year. 89 may end up with more favorable matchups in terms of coverage.

You mean by lining him up in the slot like he should have been the past 2 seasons? lol

If that does happen, I agree that his matchups will be much more favorable.

VegasSkinsFan · #48 04-19-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_stouty

For some strange reason, I could see Moss/RG3 combo being successful like the Cam/SteveSmith one was last year. A vet who is a good outlet for a rookie. I think Steve Smith is much better than Moss, but I could still see Moss step it up for Robert. Just IMO.

Was just going to write the same thing. I also think RG3 is going to bring a lot of excitement to players, and if he has a decent season you might see some free agents next year wanting to come here for that. just a guess.

cal_junior · #49 04-19-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_stouty

You mean by lining him up in the slot like he should have been the past 2 seasons? lol

If that does happen, I agree that his matchups will be much more favorable.

Exactly. It feels like we have a more credible collection of wide threats (especially if Hanky is good to go). Let's force some safeties to try and cover 89.

colkurtz · #50 04-19-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VegasSkinsFan

Was just going to write the same thing. I also think RG3 is going to bring a lot of excitement to players, and if he has a decent season you might see some free agents next year wanting to come here for that. just a guess.

Can you sense the joy of getting a long pass that the WR gets, in stride, to the correct side - right into the bread basket. Especially compared to all the crap passes that have been chucked around by 15 different QB in the last generation. Our offense is going to be a producer and we'll win games by 21 points instead of hoping the opponents kicker misses a FG at 47 yds to win by one!

AustinSkin · #51 04-19-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by colkurtz

Can you sense the joy of getting a long pass that the WR gets, in stride, to the correct side - right into the bread basket. Especially compared to all the crap passes that have been chucked around by 15 different QB in the last generation. Our offense is going to be a producer and we'll win games by 21 points instead of hoping the opponents kicker misses a FG at 47 yds to win by one!

A rapid-tempo offense with the deep threat always a possibility will have many defenses gasping to catch their breath. Not to mention the running lanes that will be opened up for Helu, Royster and Hightower.

Red Bear · #52 04-19-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinSkin

Agreed. I would let Gaffney compete for a spot on the roster. Moss is very talented, but lacks focus & discipline at times. Hankerson showed a flash of brilliance, but his torn labrum, and his Landry-esque refusal to deal with the injury promptly raises concern. Niles, Austin & Banks need to prove themselves. Gaffney had no YAC, but was clutch and moved the chains. Let him compete.

youre completely wrong here about hankerson. the way he went about his injury is exactly what the doctors recommended. at first no surgery was recommended, then down the line the doctors decided it best for him to do so, so he did. how is that a landry-esque refusal?

VegasSkinsFan · #53 04-19-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by colkurtz

Can you sense the joy of getting a long pass that the WR gets, in stride, to the correct side - right into the bread basket. Especially compared to all the crap passes that have been chucked around by 15 different QB in the last generation. Our offense is going to be a producer and we'll win games by 21 points instead of hoping the opponents kicker misses a FG at 47 yds to win by one!

One can only hope. Also think there might be a few more Olineman who might want to block for him too. I would expect less sacks due to Griffen's feet, and hope that doesnt cloud the FO overall view thinking that the oline suddenly improved by leaps and bounds. Im actually more excited about the offense this year than the defense. Unless Neild has improved ( full tc also ), NT needs to be watched/addressed. Secondary seems to be a patchwork...but might survive with dline pressure.

cal_junior · #54 04-19-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bear

youre completely wrong here about hankerson. the way he went about his injury is exactly what the doctors recommended. at first no surgery was recommended, then down the line the doctors decided it best for him to do so, so he did. how is that a landry-esque refusal?

A picture of Landry's personal physician:

hail2skins · #55 04-19-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinSkin

Agreed. I would let Gaffney compete for a spot on the roster. Moss is very talented, but lacks focus & discipline at times. Hankerson showed a flash of brilliance, but his torn labrum, and his Landry-esque refusal to deal with the injury promptly raises concern. Niles, Austin & Banks need to prove themselves. Gaffney had no YAC, but was clutch and moved the chains. Let him compete.

You're wrong about how Hank handled his injury. He did what they told him to do. I don't know how you classify that as Landry-esque. That's just absurd.

VegasSkinsFan · #56 04-19-2012, 04:06 PM

Didnt need to start a new thread so i am putting this here. Just saw a tweet that Niles Paul has been working/meeting with the TE group. Wonder if its to work more on blocking type stuff or planning to have him bulk up, or is this just par for the course meaning do wr's do this??

hail2skins · #57 04-19-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VegasSkinsFan

Didnt need to start a new thread so i am putting this here. Just saw a tweet that Niles Paul has been working/meeting with the TE group. Wonder if its to work more on blocking type stuff or planning to have him bulk up, or is this just par for the course meaning do wr's do this??

I saw that as well. Interesting.

Brokenstriker · #58 04-19-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skinfanjon

I don't get the Gaffney hate. He's a reliable chain-mover and a stabilizing force amongst a number of question marks at the receiver position. If they want to explore his market value, cool, but I don't want to just give him away.

Right now we have 2 FA's being asked to fill large roles; Is Garcon going to transition well and make a 70 catch impact? Is Morgan going to make it through the season and finally cash in on his talent? What about Moss, how will he adapt to the lesser role and will he play in the slot? Is Hankerson healthy and can he play like the guy that showed up in Miami on a regular basis? And then there's guys like Austin, Armstrong, and Paul...do they even make the team? Armstrong is a one-trick pony it seems, and he's not very good at that particular trick. Austin may just need an opportunity, but we've been saying that for several seasons. Paul is a decent special team-er and a solid blocker, but what'd he catch last year, two balls? He's an easy cut imo.

Maybe it boils down to a choice between Moss and Gaffney, in which case I'd drop Santana. I've long since been over the key drops and inopportune fumbles. I'd be just fine letting Gaffney play the slot this year and rotate in, at least you have a firm idea what you're getting.

agree about Gaffney ... Armstrong's trick plays better with someone like RG3 who can actually throw a bomb ... tough about Moss ... love the good Moss but hoping he's not to far past his prime to recover

Red Bear · #59 04-19-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VegasSkinsFan

Didnt need to start a new thread so i am putting this here. Just saw a tweet that Niles Paul has been working/meeting with the TE group. Wonder if its to work more on blocking type stuff or planning to have him bulk up, or is this just par for the course meaning do wr's do this??

maybe so he can work on blocking inside? where he might face LBers and DEs. maybe he needs to improve his technique? and a TE blocking seems like it would be more similar to a WR blocking than an OL would be. or maybe simply he is moving to TE lol.

who tweeted it?

VegasSkinsFan · #60 04-19-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bear

maybe so he can work on blocking inside? where he might face LBers and DEs. maybe he needs to improve his technique? and a TE blocking seems like it would be more similar to a WR blocking than an OL would be. or maybe simply he is moving to TE lol.

who tweeted it?

Paulsen I saw it on the tweet feed from the HR homepage.