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Old 04-27-2012, 09:26 PM
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Also, while he should have called a cab or car service to get home, I am not ready to slash and burn his character over one incident.
He has a list of incidents both off and on the field.
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:37 PM
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He has a list of incidents both off and on the field.
I know he stomped on the guy in college and recently got fined for a hit, but I didn't think he had any off-the-field stuff.
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:42 AM
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I know he stomped on the guy in college and recently got fined for a hit, but I didn't think he had any off-the-field stuff.
He didn't just stomp a guy on the field, he used his helmet as a weapon during that brawl. Not exactly a straight line thinker.
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:52 AM
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A person should get in trouble if they injure someone else or cause damage to someone else's property. Otherwise, I see no issue with drinking and driving.

There's no guilty mind (lawyers, help me out, is that mens rae?) if you wind up drinking and driving.

Hence, I disagree with your point on Russian Roulette. You're talking about a gun and ammunition. I can't call that analogous to someone operating a vehicle while intoxicated.
I suppose you've never been hit head on, in your mini-van full of kids, by a drunk driver driving down the wrong side of the road then have you? And then had to re-live the whole incident over and over again in court? Have your kids dragged into court to testify?

While no one in our accident was seriously injured, we very well could have been if not for the driving skills of my friend. This is a very irresponsible statement that you have made. You don't drink and drive PERIOD, he certainly had the means to call a cab.

On the flip side, I completely agree with you on the texting and distracted driving being just as dangerous. I am in insurance, we have accidents everyday, that start with, "I don't know what happened, I only looked down for a second..."
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:52 AM
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So not really a list or anything off the field. Definitely a DWB.
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Old 04-28-2012, 09:53 AM
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So not really a list or anything off the field. Definitely a DWB.
Meriweather was involved in a shooting in 2010. The two victims initially said he was the shooter, but Meriweather was later cleared by the police.

I am not commenting on what, if anything, this says about Meriweather's character. But it definitely is something that happened off-the-field that is part of his personal history, whatever its significance.
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:06 AM
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Should cut him before we can't!why can't these guys just pay somebody to drive them around when they want to get hammered?
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:31 PM
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No I don't know anyone injured by a drunk driver. On the other hand I know people who have been maimed by "distracted drivers" (texting, changing cd's).

I'm in favor of handing out punishments to people who cause harm to others. Making poor decisions tends to catch up with people.

Once you're in an accident, does it matter if the other driver was drunk or distracted?
A drunk driver is more likely to cause an accident. He is less able to take care. Why wait until he has actually harmed someone? The drunk driver who hits someone has made the same bad decision as the one who gets home safely. He's just gotten lucky enough not to cause any damage. That's no reason to let him off scot-free.
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Old 04-28-2012, 01:11 PM
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I gotta admit, I never thought i would see a pro-drunk driving argument before. Props to natgbz he is almost as popular as I was with the fire shanny thread
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Old 04-28-2012, 01:51 PM
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Who knows? He could be the founder of DAMM (Drunks against Mad Mothers). Ironically, that's exactly what it looks like BM is saying in his Mug Shot - DAAMMMMMM
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I gotta admit, I never thought i would see a pro-drunk driving argument before. Props to natgbz he is almost as popular as I was with the fire shanny thread
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:39 AM
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Nah, like I said, they don't have the evidence therefore the refusal is the only charge that will stick so they will plea it down since the CA's all know they aren't beating whoever it is he hires.
As an fyi, from here-
http://www.drunkdrivinglawyers.com/r...ed-in-virginia

"If the test is not taken, a person will be subject to an immediate administrative license suspension, which will last for seven days. In addition to this, the accused will also face a criminal charge for refusal to take a test.

If the individual has never been convicted of this charge before, and he is found guilty, his driver's license will be suspended for a year. The second time he is convicted, the suspension can be increased to three years, six months of incarceration can be ordered, and he may have to pay a fine of $1,000. The third conviction will result in another three year loss of driving privileges. The period of incarceration can increase to 12 months and the fine can go up to $2,500.

It is important to note that these penalties are just for refusing to take the test."

It does seem to make it harder to get a guilty charge but if acheived, the refusal hits you hard.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:47 AM
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I gotta admit, I never thought i would see a pro-drunk driving argument before. Props to natgbz he is almost as popular as I was with the fire shanny thread
Next up, the pro-first degree murder thread!
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:15 AM
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Next up, the pro-first degree murder thread!
Rafael Cherry on line 1 for you... i think he is STILL in jail, and well he should be..
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:28 PM
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I forgot about Raphel. (I think it is with a ph and no a, if memory serves). Fifth-round pick, was a decent player for us for a while. He, Dexter and Terry Orr are members of the Skins prison team, although what Raphel did was way worse obviously. Very sad.

Anyway, I am waiting for the argument that if someone shoots and misses, he should just walk because after all, no one got hurt.

People need to realize that a vehicle is a weapon. It is a one or two-ton mass vehicle hurtling at speed, and if it hits someone or something the consequences are potentially going to be life-altering or life-ending. Contrary to popular opinion, what we call "accidents" don't just happen-they are the result of someone's carelessness. Someone makes the decision that their need to talk on their cell phone, text, drive home when drunk, or get to their appointment 2 minutes earlier is more important than my safety and yours (and their own).

Maryland has had way too lax an attitude to drunk driving for way too long.
Many innocent people (and also some less-than-innocent people) have paid for that with their lives.
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