Who will be the #2 Backup QB at Season's Start?

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by Gravy

Here's a question:

If RG3 is playing well and leading us towards a playoff birth but goes down...do ya'll think that Grossman could come in and continue to lead us to the playoffs?

No.

Originally Posted by GeneralDisorder

One good thing about Grossman is that he did have the ability to move the offense down the field*. There were three things in life you could count on when Jason Campbell was QB - death, taxes, and the offense going 3 and out...

* Yep, I know - there's no point driving 50 yards downfield if you follow it up with a boneheaded pick...

.....that changed under Grossman? I guess if you count the "Grossman's never had a game without a turnover for the skins" part, it is different.

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by Gravy

If RG3 is playing well and leading us towards a playoff birth but goes down...do ya'll think that Grossman could come in and continue to lead us to the playoffs?

Not enough information to answer the question. How many games does he have to win? Who are we playing? How has the O-Line/running game/defense been playing to that point in the season?

We saw early last season (Cardinals, Rams) that Rex can beat bad teams if he has a healthy offensive line and a good running game. But if the offense depends on him throwing a ton of balls and making lots of decisions under pressure the result is 3+ turnovers and a loss.

[Gravy]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Not enough information to answer the question. How many games does he have to win? Who are we playing? How has the O-Line/running game/defense been playing to that point in the season?

We saw early last season (Cardinals, Rams) that Rex can beat bad teams if he has a healthy offensive line and a good running game. But if the offense depends on him throwing a ton of balls and making lots of decisions under pressure the result is 3+ turnovers and a loss.

Really? It's a simple yes or no.

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by Gravy

Really? It's a simple yes or no.

So you think the likelihood of Rex winning one or two games against mediocre competition is exactly the same as the likelihood of him winning 4 or 5 games in a stretch featuring primarily tough competition? Because that's the only way it's a simple yes/no question.

[Gravy]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

So you think the likelihood of Rex winning one or two games against mediocre competition is exactly the same as the likelihood of him winning 4 or 5 games in a stretch featuring primarily tough competition? Because that's the only way it's a simple yes/no question.

No, I think that if RG3 goes down and we have to rely on Rex, we are in trouble. He panics and hangs on to to the ball which leads to a sack and sometimes a fumble. He will throw it into triple coverage thinking it will work but be picked off instead. I don't trust Rex.

[akhhorus]

Here's the skins' last 4 games in 2012:
Baltimore Ravens
@Cleveland Browns
@ Philadelphia Eagles
Dallas Cowboys

Anyone think that Grossman can win more then 1 of those 4?

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by Gravy

No, I think that if RG3 goes down and we have to rely on Rex, we are in trouble. He panics and hangs on to to the ball which leads to a sack and sometimes a fumble. He will throw it into triple coverage thinking it will work but be picked off instead. I don't trust Rex.

I agree with all of this. But there are scenarios under which I could see him winning a game or two and helping us sneak in.

[Gravy]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

Here's the skins' last 4 games in 2012:
Baltimore Ravens
@Cleveland Browns
@ Philadelphia Eagles
Dallas Cowboys

Anyone think that Grossman can win more then 1 of those 4?

I think he can win them...

...for the other team

[BIGREDSKINSFAN1963]

I'd rather see cousins pick up the offensive good enough to cut grossman during the last month of the season.i'd rather take my chances with rg3 and cousins than i would have grossman come in and play and fumble the game away or throw yet another stupid pick!

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINSFAN1963

I'd rather see cousins pick up the offensive good enough to cut grossman during the last month of the season.i'd rather take my chances with rg3 and cousins than i would have grossman come in and play and fumble the game away or throw yet another stupid pick!

Agree 100 percent. And based on some of the early reports of Cousins' accuracy in OTAs, if he's able to pick up the offense quickly I coud see him as the No. 2 by the second half of the regular season.

This is pretty clearly Rex's last go-around with the Skins, no reason to keep him at back-up if a young guy who'll be here for 3+ more years is figuring things out in practice.

[esmith1790]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Good point. Just because Rex isn't able to do something himself doesn't necessarily mean he won't be able to explain what it supposed happen in a given situation.

is that because every fumble and INT, the coaches have to re teach him what to do. He has been over coached then.

He should know exactly what to do every play cause the coaches are saying, "This is what you did WRONG, this is what you should have done CORRECT."

[GloryHog]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Agree 100 percent. And based on some of the early reports of Cousins' accuracy in OTAs, if he's able to pick up the offense quickly I coud see him as the No. 2 by the second half of the regular season.

This is pretty clearly Rex's last go-around with the Skins, no reason to keep him at back-up if a young guy who'll be here for 3+ more years is figuring things out in practice.

That's about the way I hope it plays out. I hope and think, there is only a window of time (through preseason and half to three quarters of the year) that Rex is really going to be valuable as a mentor and a better option than Cousins.

Next year if things are going per plan, he should be history.

[smoak]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

I didn't say that he was incompetent, stupid and a generally bad guy. I was pretty clear in saying that I don't think that he is a good teacher of the system because he doesn't seem to know how to run it properly.

I think he is incompetent, stupid & and generally a bad guy. I have stood by some crappy Redskins and defended them b/c they were on my team, but Grossman is not an NFL QB.

[AustinSkin]

Originally Posted by GloryHog

That's about the way I hope it plays out. I hope and think, there is only a window of time (through preseason and half to three quarters of the year) that Rex is really going to be valuable as a mentor and a better option than Cousins.

Next year if things are going per plan, he should be history.

Rex may be a nice enough guy, but I believe he has little value as a mentor. I am hoping that Cousins and RGIII are competing to learn as much as possible, as fast as possible. If Cousins shows that he is comfortable with the system, and can make the right reads, I'm all for releasing Rex before the start of the season. Out of curiosity, would this free up some cap space?

[colkurtz]

Grossman is one of the 5 worst QB in the entire NFL last season. Would that have changed if the interior OL had been more solid? I'm just not sure. The best NFL QBs can make an DL blitz miss, at least sometimes. They can extend a play to make something from nothing; they can connect on a long pass on the one or two occasions when our WR/TE is wide open & streaking to the goal line.