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06-26-2012, 08:44 PM
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Roster Projections: Running Backs
Ok,
It's nothing to talk about but let's get into projections about the roster. I know training camp hasn't started yet but let's do it for fun.
The Redskins currently have 8 RB's including the FB. Which ones do you believe will make the roster. Listed below are the players.
Antwon Bailey
Lennon Creer
Tristan Davis
Roy Helu
Tim Hightower
Alfred Morris
Evan Royster
Darrel Yong
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06-26-2012, 08:51 PM
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Lennon Creer: throw at the dartboard to with the no-names, Shanny will keep one of them.
Roy Helu: talented, but I bet that he's out of Shanny's favor because of his health issues.
Tim Hightower: They apparently want him to start.
Alfred Morris: This year's Helu/Royster and makes one of them expendable very quickly.
Darrel Young: Fb.
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06-26-2012, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by akhhorus
Lennon Creer: throw at the dartboard to with the no-names, Shanny will keep one of them.
Roy Helu: talented, but I bet that he's out of Shanny's favor because of his health issues.
Tim Hightower: They apparently want him to start.
Alfred Morris: This year's Helu/Royster and makes one of them expendable very quickly.
Darrel Young: Fb.
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What about Royster?
Edit: Nevermind I just saw Alfred Morris
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06-26-2012, 11:12 PM
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Helu, Hightower, Royster, Morris and Young. Morris will see reps at HB and FB, and suprise a LOT of people IMO.
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06-27-2012, 12:18 AM
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if Morris can keep from fumbling, he will make the roster.. that was the rap on him in college.. he takes a LOT of hits because he refuses to go down.. sooner or later the ball is out
he runs with violence and will become a fan favorite in pre season
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06-27-2012, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FunBunch5
What about Royster?
Edit: Nevermind I just saw Alfred Morris
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I wouldn't be shocked if Helu and Royster are dealt during TC.
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06-27-2012, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shally
if Morris can keep from fumbling, he will make the roster.. that was the rap on him in college.. he takes a LOT of hits because he refuses to go down.. sooner or later the ball is out
he runs with violence and will become a fan favorite in pre season
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I detest fumblers. If Morris tends to put the ball on the ground, I don't want him carrying the mail. I understand that he is good at pass-protection. If so, perhaps he can be a 3rd down back or a backup FB to Young.
RB is no longer a premier position. I think Ray Rice, Maurice Jones-Drew and Matt Forte are borderline delusional if they think they are going to get some mega bucks long-term deal--especially MJD. He has two more years left on his current contract. Why would the Jags tear up his contract and give him a big extension when they are likely to end up 3-13 with him or without him?
The Skins don't need to carry more than 5 (RB and FB combined). It will probably be Helu, Royster, Hightower, Young and Morris (who may be able to play both RB and FB). It may even be just 4 if Hightower isn't quite over his injury or if Morris doesn't prove to be of NFL-caliber.
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06-27-2012, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HanburgerBum
I detest fumblers. If Morris tends to put the ball on the ground, I don't want him carrying the mail. I understand that he is good at pass-protection. If so, perhaps he can be a 3rd down back or a backup FB to Young.
RB is no longer a premier position. I think Ray Rice, Maurice Jones-Drew and Matt Forte are borderline delusional if they think they are going to get some mega bucks long-term deal--especially MJD. He has two more years left on his current contract. Why would the Jags tear up his contract and give him a big extension when they are likely to end up 3-13 with him or without him?
The Skins don't need to carry more than 5 (RB and FB combined). It will probably be Helu, Royster, Hightower, Young and Morris (who may be able to play both RB and FB). It may even be just 4 if Hightower isn't quite over his injury or if Morris doesn't prove to be of NFL-caliber.
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I agree here.
Helu, and Hightower are solid bets Royster and Morris will fight it out. Unless Hightower is slow to come back from the knee which is possible.
Morris will win out if he proves to be able to make big plays. Royster will always just sorta get those 4 and 5 yards not ever making any big plays.
This is one area where Shanny is king he has an eye for picking rb's. If I were a dad with a son not sure I'd want him being an NFL rb the pounding and now the pay just isn't worth it. Their value has sunk in recent years.
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06-27-2012, 03:27 PM
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Personally, I don't see Helu not making the roster. He's the only guy who's a threat from anywhere on the field, our only homerun hitter at RB. I think its Royster and Morris competing for that last spot. Morris has to show violence and the ability to punch it in from a couple of yards out as well as play fullback and special teams. He's a prime candidate for the practice squad and may end up bouncing between the practice squad and the roster the entire season based on injuries. I don't see us carrying 5 RBs into day on unless Hightower looks to be close to coming back but not there yet.
My ideal gameplan is to rotate Royster/Morris and Hightower in throughout the first half and then when the defense appears to be wearing down (end of first half, late 3rd quarter and beyond), toss in Helu and see if they can catch him. I'm willing to bet, between all the movement required to defend a ZBS and having to chase Griffin all over the place, Helu can catch them napping and we see some real exciting runs.
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06-27-2012, 10:35 PM
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I personally don't see how we could cut Royster...he may not be the fastest or the strongest but I think the kid rUns with vision sets up blocks well and gets the most out of his talent...hes not gonna blow you away in any one category...but I really like the kid as a rb3...I thought he performed well last year and I'm on the bandwagon
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06-28-2012, 07:03 AM
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Hightower
Helu
Royster
Morris
Young
If we cut any of these 5, they will instantly be snatched up by someone. You can guarantee that.
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06-28-2012, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jaylen
I agree here.
Helu, and Hightower are solid bets Royster and Morris will fight it out. Unless Hightower is slow to come back from the knee which is possible.
Morris will win out if he proves to be able to make big plays. Royster will always just sorta get those 4 and 5 yards not ever making any big plays.
This is one area where Shanny is king he has an eye for picking rb's. If I were a dad with a son not sure I'd want him being an NFL rb the pounding and now the pay just isn't worth it. Their value has sunk in recent years.
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We all love to watch football, but the truth is that I would have serious reservations if my son came to me and asked for permission to play the sport whether it be at RB or some other position. It is such a violent game and former players clearly are dying prematurely--probably due to cumulative head trauma. About the only positions I can see where the risk may be justified are punter and placekicker, and I am not even sure about the first since a punter may have to make tackles.
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06-28-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by firehawk157
Personally, I don't see Helu not making the roster. He's the only guy who's a threat from anywhere on the field, our only homerun hitter at RB. I think its Royster and Morris competing for that last spot. Morris has to show violence and the ability to punch it in from a couple of yards out as well as play fullback and special teams. He's a prime candidate for the practice squad and may end up bouncing between the practice squad and the roster the entire season based on injuries. I don't see us carrying 5 RBs into day on unless Hightower looks to be close to coming back but not there yet.
My ideal gameplan is to rotate Royster/Morris and Hightower in throughout the first half and then when the defense appears to be wearing down (end of first half, late 3rd quarter and beyond), toss in Helu and see if they can catch him. I'm willing to bet, between all the movement required to defend a ZBS and having to chase Griffin all over the place, Helu can catch them napping and we see some real exciting runs.
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Sounds like a plan!
By the way, has anyone even suggested that Helu wouldn't make the team? I agree that he is the Skins best threat at RB.
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06-28-2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JsMaViSd
Hightower
Helu
Royster
Morris
Young
If we cut any of these 5, they will instantly be snatched up by someone. You can guarantee that.
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So, our garbage is somebody else's gold? The truth is, besides Helu, I don't think any of the other four would be a lock to be picked up by another team if the Skins were to cut him. Not only are these four nothing to get overly excited about, RBs in general don't get anybody excited any more.
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06-28-2012, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wave6ten
I personally don't see how we could cut Royster...he may not be the fastest or the strongest but I think the kid rUns with vision sets up blocks well and gets the most out of his talent...hes not gonna blow you away in any one category...but I really like the kid as a rb3...I thought he performed well last year and I'm on the bandwagon
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I agree with everything you said about Royster and I like him as well. That being said, if Morris turns out to be a clearly better back, Royster could be out of here. I think Helu is a lock, as is Hightower if he is healthy.
I think the key to all these backs being successful, is that you can't run any of them more than 15 plays a game. They all have talent and ability. What they haven't shown is the durability to run the ball 20+ times a game consistently.
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