Batman shooting in Colorado

[RedskinsDave]

Nice attempt. I am sorry that the Constitution says things you don't like. Freedom is odd that way. You should go burn an American flag in protest. My rights have never killed anyone.

[Ibleedburgundy]

The constitution also said a black person only counts for 3/5s of a white person. Perhaps this doesn't lead you to the conclusion that the document wasn't infallible, but for me it does.

There is no constitutional argument to be made here. The constitution was made to be amended. We are free to have which ever laws we choose. The thousands of needless deaths resulting from our lack of gun laws are unconscionable. You are in denial.

[RedskinsDave]

Two people were killed by a drunk driver last night. We need to keep GM and Budweiser in check. Personal responsibility only exists to liberals when they're yelling obscenities or burning flags and that's when they wrap themselves in that same constitution.

This guy and every one like him has broken dozens of gun laws. Let's make more!

[shally]

Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

If I see one more person turn this into a gun control debate, I am going to lose my mind. Worry about the victims and save the gun control crap once their bodies are cold. He repeatedly had long gun and pistols. He didn't have an assault rifle.

I dont often watch the Sunday morning talk shows. But my future mother in law had them running this morning. It is like watching a predictable car wreck in slow motion

Of course the libs were spinning this into a call for more gun control. As Rahm said a crisis is a terrible thing to waste.

You simply cannot prevent this even with restrictive controls. And unlike other crazies I am not sure this guy had a long enough record of mental illness to be picked up on social radar. Plus he appears to be smart enough to hav defeated controls to limit automatic weapon controls

Hear me out as to shally's serious solution to some of these tragedies

The overwhelming majority if not all of these guys who commit mass murder are so socially inept that they cannot form intimate relationships. In crude terms, they aren't getting any! It is well know in psychology that violence is often a substitute for sex in males. Moreover guys who are able to maintain even casual relationships don't often morph into this kind of horrendous killer

Solution?. Decriminalize the sex trade industry so that folks like this guy can have safe access to regular sex. Hell give them free pot too! There is already enough infrastructure available but because it involves criminal behavior my guess would be it wouldn't attract guys like this last one. But if legal and safe? My guess is this might not have happened. Do they have this kind of thing in Amsterdam ?

I know this much what we are doing now won't prevent this horror in the future. Nor will more gun laws. I think it is time to try a different approach

[cal_junior]

Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

Dumbest. Comment. Ever. I've been pulled aside a few times, once with my three year old niece. I've actually never seen a Muslim person getting the once over.

Good point. Because I did write that at no time in TSA history has a white person been pulled aside.

And what exactly does a "Muslim person" look like?

[shally]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Good point. Because I did write that at no time in TSA history has a white person been pulled aside.

And what exactly does a "Muslim person" look like?

Brown

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

I dont often watch the Sunday morning talk shows. But my future mother in law had them running this morning. It is like watching a predictable car wreck in slow motion

Of course the libs were spinning this into a call for more gun control. As Rahm said a crisis is a terrible thing to waste.

You simply cannot prevent this even with restrictive controls. And unlike other crazies I am not sure this guy had a long enough record of mental illness to be picked up on social radar. Plus he appears to be smart enough to hav defeated controls to limit automatic weapon controls

Hear me out as to shally's serious solution to some of these tragedies

The overwhelming majority if not all of these guys who commit mass murder are so socially inept that they cannot form intimate relationships. In crude terms, they aren't getting any! It is well know in psychology that violence is often a substitute for sex in males. Moreover guys who are able to maintain even casual relationships don't often morph into this kind of horrendous killer

Solution?. Decriminalize the sex trade industry so that folks like this guy can have safe access to regular sex. Hell give them free pot too! There is already enough infrastructure available but because it involves criminal behavior my guess would be it wouldn't attract guys like this last one. But if legal and safe? My guess is this might not have happened. Do they have this kind of thing in Amsterdam ?

I know this much what we are doing now won't prevent this horror in the future. Nor will more gun laws. I think it is time to try a different approach

This guy had enough cash to buy about 1500 bucks in weaponry, he had enough for a hooker/pot. The solution, imo, is market based: make it in the interest of a gun store(and manufacturer) to discourage all sales of these weapons and pass specific laws amping up torts on sellers/manufacturers of weapons that can shoot automatically(make it X rounds per second). That will encourage the manufacturers to modify the assault weapons to be exclusively single shot. And before anyone says: "But the Va Tech shooter had 2 semi-auto pistols..." the cops arrived on scene in Colorado within 60 seconds(there were cops close by apparently). 60 seconds of fire from a glock(or even a glock+a shotgun at 1 round every 5-10 seconds) is much different then 60 seconds of a fully automatic assault rifle(which can shoot out 30 rounds in 10 seconds).

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

Brown

I have a jewish uncle(a sabra) who looked enough like Bin Laden that he still gets stopped by the TSA lol.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

I have a jewish uncle(a sabra) who looked enough like Bin Laden that he still gets stopped by the TSA lol.

We are literally brothers. Sadly there is so much that unites us as people that we focus on the differences

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

We are literally brothers. Sadly there is so much that unites us as people that we focus on the differences

Well, the Jews and muslims really didn't start fighting until the ottoman land laws came into effect in the Holy Land in the late 19th century. Then it became a scramble to snap up as much land from the jordan river to the sea and the familiar bonds fell apart.

[shally]

Originally Posted by akhhorus

This guy had enough cash to buy about 1500 bucks in weaponry, he had enough for a hooker/pot. The solution, imo, is market based: make it in the interest of a gun store(and manufacturer) to discourage all sales of these weapons and pass specific laws amping up torts on sellers/manufacturers of weapons that can shoot automatically(make it X rounds per second). That will encourage the manufacturers to modify the assault weapons to be exclusively single shot. And before anyone says: "But the Va Tech shooter had 2 semi-auto pistols..." the cops arrived on scene in Colorado within 60 seconds(there were cops close by apparently). 60 seconds of fire from a glock(or even a glock+a shotgun at 1 round every 5-10 seconds) is much different then 60 seconds of a fully automatic assault rifle(which can shoot out 30 rounds in 10 seconds).

True. But just about everyone of these guys is a testosterone fueled young guy. Get them a regular outlet, if they can figure out how to use something other than their trigger finger and we will decrease the incidence of this sort of thing. Not all of it but definitely some. Other than true evil like Manson can you think of any of these guys who had a current real girlfriend? They are all loners and socially inept

[akhhorus]

Originally Posted by shally

True. But just about everyone of these guys is a testosterone fueled young guy. Get them a regular outlet, if they can figure out how to use something other than their trigger finger and we will decrease the incidence of this sort of thing. Not all of it but definitely some. Other than true evil like Manson can you think of any of these guys who had a current real girlfriend? They are all loners and socially inept

Agree on loners/socially inept, but the shooter sounds more like a disturbed nerd who's wired got crossed up. He had a BA in neuroscience and was pursuing a PHD in it. I think its more, with him and with the info we have, that he wasn't all right in the head. His mother even said, when asked about it: "Yep, thats him." I'm betting he has a history of mental health issues(and should have prevented him from buying guns).

[Ibleedburgundy]

Originally Posted by RedskinsDave

Two people were killed by a drunk driver last night. We need to keep GM and Budweiser in check. Personal responsibility only exists to liberals when they're yelling obscenities or burning flags and that's when they wrap themselves in that same constitution.

This guy and every one like him has broken dozens of gun laws. Let's make more!

Prohibition is different because it was tried and failed. Sensible gun laws have been tried and succeeded in every other wealthy country.

Gun murders are 15-19.5 times higher in the USA than they are in countries with intelligent gun regulations.

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/s...te-20-times-h/

[AustinSkin]

In the meantime, there have been 7 mass shootings this year. That comes down to an average of one mass shooting, per month somewhere in America. We are kicking everyone's but when it comes to random mass killings.

[RedskinsDave]

Originally Posted by cal_junior

Good point. Because I did write that at no time in TSA history has a white person been pulled aside.

And what exactly does a "Muslim person" look like?

You said you've never seen it which is completely a lie but one that seres your agenda. Nice work by the two of you. Prove it or shut it.