what needs to happen?

RedskinRyan · #1 11-02-2003, 08:07 PM

since realistically, spurrier and snyder wont give up control of the team, what can be done?

since patrick ramsey doesnt complain to my knowledge, i think he needs to lash out. when the quiet person talks, people listen.

Odyn · #2 11-02-2003, 08:18 PM

How is it Snyder's fault? Someone, please help me!!!

Emmanouel8 · #3 11-02-2003, 08:22 PM

Is Snyder Ron Wolf? Why does he think he and Vinny are even close?

Is Snyder a player or coach? Then why is he guaranteeing victories?

Is Snyder out of his mind? Then why is he calling ex-Dallas coaches for advice.

PennSkinsFan · #4 11-02-2003, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Emmanouel8
Is Snyder Ron Wolf? Why does he think he and Vinny are even close?

Is Snyder a player or coach? Then why is he guaranteeing victories?

Is Snyder out of his mind? Then why is he calling ex-Dallas coaches for advice.

Snyder and Vinny brought in several solid veteran free agents last off-season, namely, Coles, Hall, Thomas, and Bowen, all DOING THEIR JOBS.

Snyder gauranteeing victories? Spurrier is the one that proomised the Dallas game ball to Snyder.

Why is he calling JJ for advice. Cause he realizes that hiring Spurrier was a mistake

You guys can blame Snyder all you want, but he WAS NOt on the field, and he WAS NOT calling crappy offensive plays, and he WAS NOT deciding to allow Carter ot have all day to throw the ball.

Snyder was asked int he off-season to do a few things:

1. Beef up the OLine. He did. h e brough in a Pro Bowl OG, drafted what was touted by man to be a good pick and a steal in the third, and signed a solid veteran In Fiore

2. He was told we needed a big play WR. He shoveled out alot of money for Coles.

3. He was told that Stephen davis did not fit and we needed speed. He went out and got Trung Candiate.

4. He was told our safeties were weak and Terrell should not start. He went out and got Bowen.

5. He was told we needed to solve the kickign problem. He went out and got Hall.

Why the FRICK are people blaming Dan Snyder. Teams take on personalities of thier coach. This team commits penalties after penalties, which tells me two thing, they could care less about Steve Spurier and two, they are undisciplined and that is a reflection on the coach. The system, FUN N GUN worked at Florida withlesser talent on defenses. Here in the NFL, you have the best fo the best. Best DEs, Best Dts, best S, Best Cbs, the FUN N GUN is not gonna work when you are seodnign foru to five out to catch, leaving the line and Rbs that are not KNOWN for blocking, to prptect a young QB.

QUIT BLAMING DANIEL SNYDER for Horrible coaching.

Emmanouel8 · #5 11-02-2003, 08:41 PM

PSF, that crap he (Snyder) put as the defensive line is his fault. So in a way he is responsible for Quincy to have all day to throw. How do you coach crap successfully?

Now press conferences validate owner guarantees? Wow.

I'm not blaming Snyder completely but I'm not blaming anybody completely unlike some who have somehow come to the conclusion Spurrier is the only possible problem w/ this club and the only one who should be held accountable.

rskinsfan10 · #6 11-02-2003, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by Emmanouel8
Is Snyder Ron Wolf? Why does he think he and Vinny are even close?

Is Snyder a player or coach? Then why is he guaranteeing victories?

Is Snyder out of his mind? Then why is he calling ex-Dallas coaches for advice.

Never heard him claim to be Wolf. Don't forget, he asked Wolf to come aboard, and Wolf declined.

Should he NOT have confidence in HIS team? Just because some want to write HIS team off, should he do the same? Rip the owner because he shows faith? Wow!!!

And he shouldn't talk to Johnson simply because he used to coach the Cowboys? I'll simply not type what I think about that one.

hail2skins · #7 11-02-2003, 08:50 PM

I'm not one that totally supports Dan Snyder but he's not responsible for the play we're seeing on the field. The coaches are not doing a good job of coaching his players. You say how do you coach crap successfully. Well, look at Dallas. They don't have the talent but they are a well coached team. It pains me to actually say that.

My problem with Snyder is that he's too hands on with his lack of football knowledge. He needs someone to run this team that knows football and how to put a team together.

dukeuch · #8 11-02-2003, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by PennSkinsFan
QUIT BLAMING DANIEL SNYDER for Horrible coaching.

And who, pray tell, was the genius who fired a coach who did more with less to hire this idiot to a five year contract?

PennSkinsFan · #9 11-02-2003, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by dukeuch
And who, pray tell, was the genius who fired a coach who did more with less to hire this idiot to a five year contract?

Very true. If anything, hiring Spurrier does place the blame squarely on Snyder. WHY did Dan have to make our team a Labratory for a failed SEC system

rskinsfan10 · #10 11-02-2003, 09:50 PM

He fired a guy that has his current team rolling at 1-7. A guy who's current team has way more talent (on paper) then the Skins team he led to 0-5. Maybe Spurrier isn't the answer, but I personally don't think that Marty is/was either.

Emmanouel8 · #11 11-02-2003, 09:55 PM

1st of all Dallas has talent. Those sweet little blitzes that nailed Ramsey all day was Roy Williams, talent. Those Wr's that were open all day, those guy's are talent. That Qb in his 3rd year scrabbling to make a TD throw as he's being drug down, talent. Those DB's blanketing our WRs, talent.

Those turnovers and penalties they had throughout the game seems to go unnoticed around here. Parcells coaching had nothing to do w/ it but our penalties do. We don't have more talent where it counts IMHO.

Geez 3 years then call it a failure. They were trying to run Holmgren out last year (his 2nd) look at where he is now in his 3rd. No patience. It's taken 3 years for the best coaches to get it done.

Parcells only appears to have turned ir around but really their schedule so-far is weak, and the division is weak. Regardless of how successful he is why are we holding the standard so high. Parcells doesn't grow on trees and neither does Vermeil.

Skins57 · #12 11-02-2003, 09:58 PM

Is this franchise just flat out cursed or what?

Norv was not into discipline, so he was fired and MArty was brought in, he was tough on the guys but his offense sucked so then we get SS, who is an offensive genius (in the 18 - 22 year old league anyway) so where the heck do we go next

Emmanouel8 · #13 11-02-2003, 10:02 PM

Washington sports in general have been cursed. It's really bad times for Washingtonians.

PennSkinsFan · #14 11-02-2003, 10:05 PM

Difference is E8, Spurrier team, despite player upgrades is regressing, looks totally disarrayed, and Spurrier is losing control and unable to make adjustments. Big difference.

NCskinsfanatic · #15 11-02-2003, 10:27 PM

Ok ,I can agree with the fact that the blame must be shared by many.Bottom line is the guys on the team didnt like ML and his D last year but they were top 5.He could do more than GE is doing with the talent we currently have.Coaching IMO is about 60% of the problem.Not just SS,but his staff that "he" assembled as well.Snyder also brought in some very good peices in the offseason.He supplied some of the things SS needed.But we also needed a C,davis at Rb,a TE and Ramsey to play better than a promising 2nd year qb learning a demanding system.ramsey is holding the ball too long but the consensus from guys that watch tape all the time is the protection is to blame more so than his hesitancy.He hasnt even played a full year as the starter yet has he?And he is getting drilled over and over.while his lineman dont help him up,his coach shakes his head and the D plays prevent.A lot of coaches dont do it until their third year.Their teams just dont usually quit on them midway through the season.They dont believe in SS and he doesnt believe in them.