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11-06-2003, 05:36 PM
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Do you believe in Absolutes?
This is based on a statement Keino made in another thread about viewing the world in Absolutes. It is a great topic that few have ever actually sat down and pondered.
An absolute is something that is ALWAYS true ALL THE TIME. It doesnt matter what time, what region, what race, etc. Such as Gravity... it is an absolute. Even if you dont believe it exists, you will still bust yer head by jumping off a building. We have learned to manipulate this absolute... but it is still absolutely true.
So.... do you believe in ABSOLUTE TRUTH?
(This means that you believe Truth is not relative).
As always, please keep your piddly personal attacks to your mirror.
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11-06-2003, 05:39 PM
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Hard to think of one. Almost every situation is differant therefor can bring differant results.
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11-06-2003, 07:12 PM
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Sometimes I believe in absolutes. Sometimes I do not. In other words, I believe in absolutes, but not absolutely.
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11-06-2003, 08:27 PM
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Absolutely!
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11-06-2003, 08:42 PM
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11-06-2003, 08:47 PM
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11-07-2003, 07:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by BigCountry
Hard to think of one. Almost every situation is differant therefor can bring differant results.
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So examine that statement a bit. Are you implying that "truth" is based on the situation? Right and Wrong standards are to be determined through the circumstances alone?
One way most people believe is that "what works for me may not work for you".
Is this thnking correct?
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11-07-2003, 07:58 AM
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Absolute, with that, Absolutely! 
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11-07-2003, 08:11 AM
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I tend to view the world in absolutes. Things either are or they aren't. Truth is perhaps the most absolute concept. A Half Truth is a lie. A woman cannot be kinda Pregnant.
The only problem that viewing the world in absolutes presents is the tendency to oversimplify complex issues..........
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11-07-2003, 08:22 AM
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I believe in absolutes.
Life...death...evil...goodness...thought...
I believe that we do exsist, that we are not some cosmic dream, therefore, I believe in emotion in all it's forms. These are things that are absolutely true to me.
I've traveled the world and can positively say these things exsist all over and have since the beginning of time...
And oh yeah, I believe in Time!
As well as God...
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11-07-2003, 08:24 AM
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Keino,
I agree with ya! This in no way is meant as a slam toward what you said... I am just very interested in what people believe and why they believe it.
It is my personal observation that MOST people have no real clue why they believe what they believe. Like those who claim they don't believe in God... only to find out they really do (just their own interpretation of "god"... which makes THEM "god").
If all Truth is Absolute... then Murder, Theft, Adultery, etc is absolutely wrong ALL of the time, right?
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11-07-2003, 08:38 AM
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Yes those things are wrong all the time. All of those things are forms of sin......
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11-07-2003, 08:46 AM
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I do believe in absolutes
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11-07-2003, 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Skinzaholic
If all Truth is Absolute... then Murder, Theft, Adultery, etc is absolutely wrong ALL of the time, right?
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That is the existential question of the play "Les Miserables." If a man steals a loaf of bread to feed his starving family, is he a sinner or a good father? Or both?
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11-07-2003, 10:34 AM
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Yes, I do as well. This is another thing Keino and I have in common. To me there is no "gray areas" in the world. The world is black and white, and people muck it up to where they can't see the line, but it's still there.
A lot of people confuse this thought and use ignorance as thier guide. (which is fine because none of us knows EVERYTHING, but instead of seeking the answers they fall back on ignorance. I will always contend that everything is black and white.)
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