Positives/Negatives of the Big Three

[rskinsfan10]

I'm creating this thread for members (if they choose) to officially list their pros/cons of the three coaches mentioned so far.

Why would you want Denny Green/Jim Fassel/Ray Rhodes as our coach?

Why wouldn't you?

[Skaggsrules]

D. Green- Why, he wins, he can get the players under control ( except for Moss, but nobody on our team is as bad as Moss)

Why not- He and Snyder would probably bump heads a lot of times, which wouldn't be good

Fassel- Why, wins in the NFC East, knows the teams in the NFC east, can also get respect from players. Makes a guarnette then follows through with, making him a good motivator

Why not- TBD

Ray Rhodes- Why Can make our D better, isn't flashy or cocky, just straight to business, has been in the franchise with Snyder as owner

Why not- I don't think he would be as successful with this team than the other two

[HollywoodKolt]

Fassel- Good and explosive NFL offense. Had very solid defenses. Had disiplined teams. Knows the NFC East, knows our team. Experianced NFL Coach. Had been head coach in nfl

Cons- Special team troubles. Questionable personel desisions (ignored O-line, special teams)

Green- Experianced NFL Coach. Made playoffs 8 of 10 years with Vikes with 7 different qbs. Good NFL offense. Has been Head coach in NFL

Cons- Undisiplined teams. TERRIBLE DRAFTS! Past the 1st round at least.

Rhodes- Good DC in NFL. Disiplined (I think). Demanding coach who gets the most out of his players. Has been head coach in the NFL.

Cons-Not good as head coach, in GB and Philly.

[rskinsfan10]

Denny Green- Is a proven winner IMO. Best win/lose record of the three. His Vikings were consistently playoff contenders, and he reached the NFC championship game twice. Offenses were high powered for the most part. A disciple of the WCO but wasn't afraid to throw downfield./ Questions about discipline and his defenses over his tenure, although I think that with a top DC that would no longer be a concern.

Jim Fassell- NFC East vet who would know how things are done in this division. He seemingly did alot with less talent IMO. He did reach the SB a couple of years back. Not afraid to take the reins when things don't seem to going well i.e. taking the play calling responsibilities away from Sean Payton when they were in a funk last year. Seems to be a good motivator (excluding this past year) and I've never heard of disipline being an issue with his teams./ Again back to motivation, he seemingly lost his team awhile back during this past season. Win/lose record not overly impressive.

Ray Rhodes- INTENSE!! Would demand respect, discipline, and accountability from his entire team. Has not rushed back into the head coaching game after his previous stints. I would have to think that he truly is ready to give it a go again, and would seemingly be motivated to prove that he belongs at the top./ INTENSE!! Would he be able to not suffer burnout as he reportedly did in Philly? Win/lose record is not impressive. Worst of the three.

[NCskinsfanatic]

Well for me Ray Rhodes is a very good D-coordinator.I dont think he should enough the short amount of time in Philly or GB to make me feel that he can come in here and turn it around next year.

Fassel to me embodies heart,class and testicular fortitude.Both in the way he handled his firing and how he promised the giants would make the playoffs a couple of seasons ago and they did.However he IMO hasnt posted as many winning seasons or playoff appearances as our last canidate.

Green in 10 seasons always seemed to win and take his team to the playoffs to boot.He has a better overall record than Jim and has put a more prolific O on the field year after year. IMO though he doesnt bring the discipline that Jim does and will need more power(which he probably wont and shouldnt get).

So for me it's Fassell and Bring in Allen as more of a GM from Oakland.Give Vinny the title AM(ASS Muncher) and lets rebuild this once proud franchise.

[Emmanouel8]

Denny Green
pros: Runs a good offense (west coast offense), has pro exp, good track record, experience in dealing w/ premadonnas, fresh, wants to coach, organized has a plan, know what he wants to do, very knowledgebale, is a good match w/ the personell we have, not afraid to deal w/ Snyder. Able to match up w/ Parcells and Reid.

Cons: hasn't been a part of a high caliber defense, may not work well w/ Snyder structure in the long run.

Jim Fassell
pros: nfl exp, has a good overall offensive approach, great motivational attitude, takes losing bad, has a good track record, great track record in the NFC east, extremely knowledgable in the east, won't take shit from Snyder, wants to be coaching, may fit the Snyder Structure in the long run, has an itch to succeed. Got the Giants to overachieve some years, had an explosive passing game last year. Can match up w/ Parcells and Reid.

Cons: He's a giants throw away and this past season coaching doesn't make him appear attractive but injuries sustained have to be taking into account. Needs a strong defensive coordinator.

Ray Rhodes
pros: nfl exp, strong defensive mind, 3rd stint may be a charm, familiar w/ the WCO, tough attitude, NFC east experience.

Cons: his defenses are too blitz limited, needs a strong offensive coord, may not last as a head coach under Snyder, been there done that need fresh blood.

[Monk81]

if i remeber right lavar and rhodes didn't get along. rhodes was the def. coordinator in Lavar's rookie year and they didn't get along.

that could be a problem if rhodes is hired

[Green-Is-Good]

Fassel made an tattered, inexperienced Giant offensive line look decent.

[rskinsfan10]

Originally posted by Monk81
if i remeber right lavar and rhodes didn't get along. rhodes was the def. coordinator in Lavar's rookie year and they didn't get along.

that could be a problem if rhodes is hired

I don't recall this.

I do recall Turner not immediately starting LaVar, seemingly for his holdout.

[WRSK1NS]

Originally posted by rskinsfan10
Denny Green- Is a proven winner IMO. Best win/lose record of the three. His Vikings were consistently playoff contenders, and he reached the NFC championship game twice. Offenses were high powered for the most part. A disciple of the WCO but wasn't afraid to throw downfield./ Questions about discipline and his defenses over his tenure, although I think that with a top DC that would no longer be a concern.

Jim Fassell- NFC East vet who would know how things are done in this division. He seemingly did alot with less talent IMO. He did reach the SB a couple of years back. Not afraid to take the reins when things don't seem to going well i.e. taking the play calling responsibilities away from Sean Payton when they were in a funk last year. Seems to be a good motivator (excluding this past year) and I've never heard of disipline being an issue with his teams./ Again back to motivation, he seemingly lost his team awhile back during this past season. Win/lose record not overly impressive.

Ray Rhodes- INTENSE!! Would demand respect, discipline, and accountability from his entire team. Has not rushed back into the head coaching game after his previous stints. I would have to think that he truly is ready to give it a go again, and would seemingly be motivated to prove that he belongs at the top./ INTENSE!! Would he be able to not suffer burnout as he reportedly did in Philly? Win/lose record is not impressive. Worst of the three.

You took the words right off my keyboard! Exactly my thoughts on each.

[BigCountry]

There's one big thing I can say about Fassel. His teams had alot of the same bad tendencies that have haunted the Skins through the years. Look no further then all the back and forth giftwrap games we've had with the *** ****-men through the years. Look at their latest playoff game with the 49ers and their monday night loss to Dallas this year as well.

[Skinzaholic]

I wonder if we look beyond the Big Three. None seem to spell a turnaround to me.

[BigCountry]

Originally posted by BigCountry
There's one big thing I can say about Fassel. His teams had alot of the same bad tendencies that have haunted the Skins through the years. Look no further then all the back and forth giftwrap games we've had with the *** ****-men through the years. Look at their latest playoff game with the 49ers and their monday night loss to Dallas this year as well.

How come the letter * was edited?

[JoeDaSchmoe]

Well, other people have basically said what I'd say. Denny Green would be my top choice, followed by Fassel, then Rhodes. What scares me most about Rhodes is his previous track record as a head coach, and the fact that his dfenses don't blitz much. We can't rely on a strong defensive line. The Seattle D didn't look good against us this year because of that.

[SkinsRock36]

All I have to say is get fassel hear and he will turn it around hear in DC.